Ted Audio Collective. I believe in rethinking ideas we've taken for granted to learn how to live better.

In my new podcast, Rethinking, I ask today's greatest minds, how they think, and what assumptions

we should all reconsider. Listen to rethinking wherever you get your

podcasts. Hey listener, a quick favor. We are conducting an audience survey and

we'd be really grateful if you could take just a few minutes to respond.

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You know, like I couldn't go to Barnes and Noble and pick up say

computer arts magazine or Net magazine

and look through the pages and see someone that looked like me doing this.

I couldn't see that. This is Design Matters with Debbie Milman.

On this episode, Debbie talks with Maurice Cherry about his education and career

and about why the profession of graphic design has been so slow to acknowledge

black designers. Black people were barely free a hundred years ago so

certainly they weren't thinking about us with being graphic designers.

Here's Debbie first with a couple of messages then her interview with Maurice Cherry.

My friend Koy Vinh is an internet pioneer and the senior director of design at Adobe.

He is also the host of a fantastic podcast called Wireframe, a show for designers and the design curious about how UX can help technology fit

into our lives.

And now with the pandemic upending culture, a new season of wireframe is investigating how

COVID-19 affects the work we all do. Just search Wireframe in your favorite

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