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Even if we're all in agreement about pro-life and wanting to outlaw abortion, we've got to think through how to do it.

There will always be people who want to go slower than others.

How do you bring them with you?

This is your host, Scott Bertram.

And that's Dr. Matthew Spalding, Vice President of Washington Operations and Dean of the Van

Endel Graduate School of Government at Hillsdale College.

We talk in depth with Dr. Spalding today about what comes next in the abortion fight

after the Supreme Court weighed in via the Dobbs opinion.

Dr. Spalding, thanks for joining us.

Good to be with you, Scott. I hope it's all going well.

All is well up here in Michigan. You are in Washington, D.C.

Probably a little warmer down there, but you can keep that warmth as far as I'm concerned.

We want to have a discussion today about the environment,

post-Dob's decision from the Supreme Court about future deliberation,

legislating using prudence in those matters.

Let me begin by asking you, though,

with this Dobbs opinion from the Supreme Court, the overruling

of Roe and Casey, what are the broad possibilities opened up here by the opinion?

How does this change our conversation about the topic?

Well, I think that decision changes virtually everything about the conversation.

And it's important for us to think that through.

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