On this episode of the playbook, I have Matthew Berry, the senior fantasy analyst for ESPN, his own podcast, the fantasy show as well, and we're going to talk about how to follow your passion and fall into your successful career.

Join me for all this and more on the playbook.

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I'm your host, David Melzer.

I have Matthew Berry, the E-SPN senior fantasy football analyst,

big fan of his writer TV personality

Matt thank you for coming on the playbook.

David it's my pleasure right we I think you and I met at a Super Bowl party

like two years ago we have a lot of friends in common, we hit it off, and we're like, we got to do the pod, and so I'm glad it's finally coming to fruition.

You know, with the SPN, it's not always easy. I've had sage steel

damn pantry all the group it just takes a little while but we eventually get you and you know just like

fantasy company we're a big company we got a lot of we got a lot of cooks in the kitchen, absolutely. But I know all the people you just mentioned.

Yeah, great company and great personalities like yourself and Tannabam's a good friend of ours as well and many others, but, fantasy is taking a little while I call it my gateway

drug of of sports you know without without fantasy we would not have the legalized situation that we have today the ability the

polling the gambling the lottery that it's amazing how early did you note because you've been involved in sports for so long and in the media side as a personality?

When did you see, wow, maybe I should attach my brand to fantasy?

So, okay, so there's a couple of things there. So first off, I've been doing it since I was 14 years old and anyone that's watching can be like, okay, yeah, that dude ain't 14 years old. So obviously, I've been playing for over 30 years.

So for a long, long time, before, you know, before there were personal computers, before there was the internet, like when you kept stats by hand, you had to wait for USA Today, come out once a week and calculate your stats by hand because they had all the box scores.

So it's been a long, long time there. And I would say, Dave, just to take it back for a second here in terms of when you talk about the gateway of fantasy

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