Hi and welcome to the Working Songwriter.

The show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop, I'm your host Joe Pug.

Each episode here we host a distinguished guest and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration,

their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran, investing all of your ASCAP royalties into Bitcoin

or else, a scrappy upstart, investing your tips from SoundCloud into Dogecoin.

This is your show, because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most,

an iron-clad excuse to put off actually writing.

Hey everybody, it's the second Friday of October 2021 and I thank you for joining us.

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