Hey everybody. Welcome to the gray zone. It's me, Max Blumenthal, here with my colleague and co-host, Aaron Mate. And we've got a special guest today through I think needs no introduction. And we're just going live as well on Rockfin so everyone can watch this at

rockfin.com at Max Blumenthal. We've got Matt Taibi with us, journalist Matt Taibi. That's pretty

much all the introduction I need and Matt Taibee.com. Welcome, Matt Taibee. How you doing?

Thanks for having me, Max. Aaron, good to see you again. Good to see you too.

Well, Matt, you've been in the news a lot. I saw the British tabloid, the sun. I guess it's a

Murdoch tabloid, had an article, who is Matt Taibi? Really? Yeah, I think it was published in the last 48 hours.

So soon you're going to have paparazzi.

You might already have that.

But I mean, this is, you know, what you've been doing is huge.

I'm sorry much of the left is ignored it.

I don't know why.

But we're definitely paying close attention to it at the gray zone.

The Twitter files

you've been covering, I think, have vindicated a lot of things that Aaron and I have been saying

and revealed some new details that are explosive and hilarious. Yeah, it's hard to say which is

which, which is more, right? Sometimes you don't know whether to laugh or or be horrified

but or or both but uh i would say like the first thing for me was that it was just very

psychologically um helpful because i thought i was crazy for all these years and the first time

i started seeing these files, you know, in print saying all these things

that I think we all suspected.

It was really a relief.

So.

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