Hey, welcome to 59 degrees north with Andeshell. Enjoy the show. Welcome back to 59 degrees north. This is Andy Schell back here again. I just got back to my house in Lancaster after a quick visit down to Annapolis to do a talk at Fossets. So thanks to everybody who came out for that. While I was down there, I had two interviews, actually. one with Peter Trogden of Weems and Plath, which is going to come out in a few weeks,

and the other with Matt Rutherford again, which is what the... while I was down there, I had two interviews, actually. One with Peter Trogden of Weems and Plath,

which is going to come out in a few weeks, and the other with Matt Rutherford again, which is

what this episode is about. Matt and I discussed his upcoming expedition for the ocean

research project, a little bit about how the previous expedition into Atlantic went, where

the ocean research project stands financially, which is not on great footing, but they're

doing everything they can, and they actually have some leads now, so that looks pretty good.

And we talked a little bit about this Stanley Paris thing on Kiwi Spirit that I've been writing

about quite a bit on sail feed. So we kind of wrapped up the conversation talking about that.

And Matt actually had some pretty interesting insights to say, considering I compared him to Paris in a few times in the articles I wrote, Matt had some stuff that I was kind of unexpected to hear to say.

So listen to the end of this to hear Matt's comments on that.

Matt's been on the podcast more than anybody else.

He's always got some stories to tell,

and I think he's pretty good at telling them. So this was cool to meet Matt again in Annapolis.

Yeah, thanks for listening. You can find us on at 59 North Sailing on Twitter, on the Facebook,

and on my website, 59-north.com. Don't forget if you're interested in signing up for the Celestial

seminar, check that out on 59-n-north slash events. Don't forget if you're interested in signing up for the Celestial Seminar, check

that out on 59-north slash events. That's coming up on February 7th, 8th, 9th down in Annapolis, and then next week we're going to be at the Chicago Boat Show, so we've got a bunch of events going on out there. That's for the World Cruising Club. So check that stuff out as well. All that can be found on my website and on the

worldcruising.com website.

So thanks again for listening and thanks Matt for World Cruising Club. So check that stuff out as well. All that can be found on my website and on

the worldcruising.com website. So thanks again for listening and thanks Matt for chatting with me

one more time.

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