Matt Ross, Entrepreneur, Media Executive, and Author of Grow or Fold
Your World of Creativity
Mark Stinson
5.0 • 45 Ratings
🗓️ 12 January 2026
⏱️ 33 minutes
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Summary
Episode 400 – and the start of our 8th year of the podcast!
We welcome Matt Ross — entrepreneur, media executive, and author of the book Grow or Fold: Transform Yourself in Midlife & Beyond.
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-ross-entrepreneur/
Matt has spent nearly 30 years building businesses at the intersection of creativity and leadership. He led New York’s legendary rock station Q104.3 and hip-hop station Hot 97, helped scale School of Rock from a struggling startup into a global franchise, and later founded One River School, a first-of-its-kind art education company now with fifteen schools across six states.
- Grow or Fold — Why This Book, and Why Now?
- Matt, you’ve spent decades building creative organizations—from School of Rock to One River School. What inspired you to write Grow or Fold, and what does that title mean to you personally?
- From Rock Stages to Art Studios
o Throughout his career, Matt has made creativity the core of every organization he’s led, whether inspiring musicians, mentoring young artists, or empowering educators to think like innovators.
- What lessons carried over from building School of Rock that helped you launch One River School—and how did those experiences change your view of what creativity really means?
- Building Communities Through Art
- One of your core beliefs is that creative spaces are essential for wellbeing and connection. How have you seen art schools, studios, and community programs transform the lives of students and adults alike?
- Creative Growth and Leadership at Every Age
- You’ve said that creativity isn’t just for the young—it’s the key to staying sharp as we age. How can leaders, educators, and professionals rediscover their creative edge during midlife transitions or after major life changes?
- The CEO as Creative — and the Creative as CEO
- You’ve lived in both worlds—the creative studio and the C-suite. What can business leaders learn from artists about innovation, and what can artists learn from CEOs about sustainable growth?
- You write about nurturing originality and trust in teams. What are the most effective ways leaders can foster that kind of environment?
- You’ve described Grow or Fold as a mindset for sustainable creativity and leadership. How can people apply that mindset to their daily lives, especially in times of uncertainty or change?
Matt, for listeners who might be standing at a crossroads in their own careers or creative paths — what’s one action they can take today to start ‘growing’ rather than folding?
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And before you go, be sure to download your free e-book of A World of Creativity when you visit mark-stinson.com.
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| 0:00.0 | Unlocking your world of creativity with best-selling author and brand innovator Mark Stinson. |
| 0:09.0 | This episode is brought to you by White Cloud Coffee Loasters, where every bean tells a story of adventure. |
| 0:15.0 | Visit whitecloudcoffee.com and use the code creativity. |
| 0:20.0 | Welcome back friends to our podcast, your world of creativity. |
| 0:24.6 | And here we are at episode 400. |
| 0:28.0 | It's the start of our eighth year of the podcast. |
| 0:31.3 | I had no idea in 2019 when I sat down with my friend G. Mark Phillips behind some microphones in his living room, |
| 0:38.6 | where these creative travels might take me and how this podcast and all the many creative |
| 0:44.9 | guests I have would impact my world. So today it's quite appropriate that I welcome as my guest, |
| 0:50.7 | Matt Ross, entrepreneur, media executive, author. He crosses so many worlds of |
| 0:56.4 | music and art. And his new book is called Grow or Fold, Transform Yourself and Midlife and Beyond. |
| 1:03.9 | Matt, welcome to the show. Thank you for having me, Mark. Matt has himself spent 30 years |
| 1:08.9 | in building businesses at the intersection, as I said, creativity and leadership. |
| 1:14.3 | He led to New York's legendary rock station, Q104 and hip-hop station Hot 97. |
| 1:20.0 | Then he helped start and scale the School of Rock. |
| 1:23.5 | And who of us hasn't heard of the School of Rock? |
| 1:26.1 | And his latest startup is One River School, |
| 1:29.2 | a real art education, one of a kind. |
| 1:32.1 | There's now 15 schools across six states. |
| 1:34.9 | It's quite a record of creativity, Matt, |
| 1:37.0 | and congratulations on the new book. |
| 1:39.1 | I appreciate that. |
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