Hi and welcome to the working songwriter. The show where today's best songwriters come to Talk Shop. I'm your host, Joe Pug.

Each episode here we host a distinguished guest,

and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration, on their process,

on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran,

still trying to figure out why you were never

able to successfully meld country and rap in the late 90s, or else a scrappy upstart, trying to figure

out why you can't successfully meld emo and math rock, this is your show, because ultimately

it is what every writer seeks most,

an ironclad excuse to put off actually writing.

Hey everybody, it's the last Friday of September 2022, and I thank you for joining us.

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