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Matt Klein on How Germany Wound up So Dependent on Russian Gas

Odd Lots

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🗓️ 7 March 2022

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Harsh sanctions have been imposed against Russia over its invasion of Ukraine. However, the country's energy exports have largely been spared. One significant reason for this is Germany's high dependence on Russian energy, particularly natural gas. So how did Germany wind up in this situation? And why didn't it take steps years ago to start weaning itself off of this dependency? We discuss this with Matt Klein, the founder and publisher of The Overshoot as well as the author of the book Trade Wars Are Class Wars. He explains how misplaced German priorities led to years of underinvestment, and a poorly thought out energy strategy, which is now forcing Germany to pivot at a very difficult time.

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Hello, and welcome to another episode of the Adlots podcast. I'm Joe Weissenthal.

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And I'm Tracy Alloway. Tracy, you know, of course, on our last episode, we talked about the

1:07.2

sanctions that are being imposed against Russia. And they're really extraordinarily dramatic.

1:13.1

Obviously we've seen the Russian financial sector get pounded, all kinds of disruptions,

1:19.5

Russian equities listed abroad, their value in many cases going to zero, numerous companies,

1:25.2

often just voluntarily sort of washing their hands of the Russia business.

1:29.6

But of course, as everyone understands, the one huge, I guess it's the elephant in the room,

1:35.6

one area that has not been directly targeted is energy. Right. And this is really, I don't want

1:41.8

to say the crux of the whole issue, but certainly this is something that has played into the fact

1:46.5

that Putin invaded Ukraine in the first place. There's a huge reliance on Russian natural gas

1:54.6

in Europe. And I think this is well understood and well established now. And even before the

1:58.6

recent actions, prices had been going up. People were talking about inflation and energy crisis.

2:04.4

And then this all made it worse. But on the one hand, all of this plays into the geopolitical

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