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Odd Lots

Here's What Cyber War With Russia Would Actually Look Like

Odd Lots

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🗓️ 10 March 2022

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has set off a new wave of concern about cyber attacks. Indeed, there were already reports of some in the run up to the war—like when hackers reportedly targeted U.S. gas producers. But while worries about cyber attacks have been around for a long time, it remains hard to get a handle on the actual threat. Such attacks aren’t all that visible and information on them is often difficult to get, or comes long after the fact. On this episode of Odd Lots, Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway speak with Matt Suiche, a famous hacker and co-founder of Comae Technologies, about what a cyber war between Russia and the West may actually look like.

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0:46.2

Hello and welcome to another episode of the Adlots podcast. I'm Tracy Alloway.

0:59.0

And I'm Joe Weisenthal. So, Joe, clearly a lot still going on with Russia's invasion of Ukraine,

1:06.3

but one of the big talking points in the past couple of weeks has been this idea of a retaliatory

1:13.7

response from Russia, not necessarily in the sense of traditional warfare, but in the form of

1:21.2

cyber warfare. Right. So, this has always been a source of concern going back for several years

1:27.7

long before the existing conflict. What are Russia's cyber warfare capabilities?

1:34.0

How weak is the rest of the world? How exposed is critical infrastructure and so forth?

1:39.6

As of now, I don't think this has been a huge aspect of the current conflict.

1:46.0

Traditional violent warfare has sort of been the story, but it is always working out there as a risk.

1:53.6

Yeah, there have been some rumblings of potential attacks. I saw something in Der Spiegel

1:59.1

this morning about possibly a hack of satellites that might have been impacting Ukraine.

2:06.1

So, there are sort of rumblings of this, you know, some accusations lurking in the background,

2:11.5

but we haven't seen anything, let's say we haven't seen anything major yet. And I feel like

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