Being an entrepreneur sounds cool, but the reality of building a business is very, very difficult.

Every level that you hit, there's a lot of things that suck that you just won't want to do.

What you're capable of is on the other side I don't feel like it.

And if you're committed to what it is that you're trying to do, nothing is going to stop you from getting there.

Welcome back to another episode of real business owners with myself Trevor Cowley.

Today we have an absolutely incredible guest.

This was one of my favorite podcasts that I've ever recorded with a dear friend,

Alistair McDonald.

He's from Zimbabwe. He's seen

massive, massive success his entire life. The lessons that he shares are invaluable. As always,

if you're ready to level up, go to join RBO.com. So I'm originally from Zimbabwe in Africa.

I'm a fourth generation African. My family's been there now for, well,

fifth, I guess, my family's been there 120 years. So I grew up during a really violent civil

war as the country of Rhodesia was becoming Zimbabwe. And so this civil war was, as I say, horrific.

And we saw a complete turnover of the economy of society and general.

At the end of the war, rightfully so, the black majority replaced the white minority rule.

And there was this massive, massive brain drain of the most kind of educated and elite and privileged white members of

community. I was just a kid at the time. As they all fled to Australia and England and South

Africa, as an aside, there is a sense that South Africa is like South America, that it's this

basket of countries. Of course, it's its own country. And it sits

directly to the south of Zimbabwe. What is now Zimbabwe? I say that because people, when I say,

you know, they see I'm a white guy. I'm from Zimbabwe. They're like, oh, you're English. And

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