Welcome to the Win Make Give podcast. It's Chad Heim's here and Bob Stewart over there. Bob

getting a little nervous for the game this weekend, which will be in the past by the time this

episode airs. No, no, I'm not nervous for the game. Yes.

I am going to watch it at home with nobody else but my family because I don't want people to know that I'm a crazy lunatic. You know what I'm saying? So like, but I don't expect that it's going to go that way, right? Our guest doesn't know what we're talking about. Maybe, I don't know, I'm a Seahawks fan. We can figure out the Super Bowl's coming up.

We've got the Super Bowl coming up.

You're either New England or Seattle. Our guest doesn't know what we're talking about. Maybe, I don't know, I'm a Seahawks fan. I think we can figure out the Super Bowl's coming up.

We've got Super Bowl coming up.

You're either New England or Seattle, he has now figured out, yes. In the past, definitely not New England. I'm a Seahawks fan. I'm a tortured Seattle sports fan. Yeah, Chad, I'm good. I'm good. I told you, I told you, I only get nervous about things about five minutes before the thing. Yeah. Like, I don't have the bad case of nerves. I have an exceptionally

bad case of nerves in the first five minutes before the thing is going to happen. So like we were

talking about when we go up in front of large audiences, right? No nerves at all until five minutes before I've got to walk up there.

Then I'm like sweating.

My hands are just clammy and gross.

I'm pacing backstage.

When the guy puts the microphone on you and you're like, oh crap, I can't run away now.

I was just going to say shout out to Matt Laziski, who has moved on to another opportunity, not in our world anymore, but he was the guy that he would always call me down. He's got this voice. He'd be like, all right, man, you ready? And I'd be like, no, I'm nervous. And he would always know the right thing to say. I don't know what's going to happen the next time I have to go and Matt's not back there. We're going to find out.

Folks, here's the thing we right thing to say. I don't know what's going to happen the next time I have to go and Matt's not back there.

We're going to find out. Folks, here's the thing we want you to know. Don't bother being nervous for days, weeks, even hours, just save it for the last minute because it's going to show up. You might as well just save it so you don't have to waste all that other time. And we say that to say this, our guest is now sweating, right?

He was fine when we first got here. He was all like, yeah, I'm ready for this podcast. Now he's sitting over there. I can see him on the screen. There is sweat and buckets running down Mark's face. Now the nerves have kicked in. he's like, what did I get myself into when I reached out to

connect with the Win Make Give podcast? And Mark, we want to welcome you. Mark Silverman is joining us here

on the Win Make Give podcast today. Mark, thanks for taking the time to join us. Thanks. I just married

off my two sons, two weddings in four months. Nothing scares me.

Wow.

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