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The Stacking Benjamins Show

Master the Art of Negotiation with Paula Pant (SB1718)

The Stacking Benjamins Show

Joe Saul-Sehy and Josh ‘OG’ Bannerman, CFP

Personal Finance, Financial Planning, Education, Retirement, Investing, Cfp, Business, Money

4.42K Ratings

🗓️ 6 August 2025

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Think negotiation is just for boardrooms and car dealerships? Think again. In this episode, we bring in Paula Pant from Afford Anything to show how negotiating—done well—can level up your finances, your relationships, and yes, even who does the dishes.

Paula breaks down why many of us fear negotiation, how to overcome those internal roadblocks, and how setting clear “aspiration” and “reservation” points can lead to more confident conversations (and better outcomes). Whether you’re asking for a raise or trying to avoid unloading the dishwasher for the fifth night in a row, her tactics are practical and empowering.

Also in this episode:

  • What most people miss about their workplace retirement plans, and whether adding a managed account is the edge you’ve been missing
  • A viral TikTok proposal on setting your kids up for millions—can it really work, or is it just social media smoke?
  • Doug delivers trivia and 1970s television references like only he can
  • And we remember a cherished interview, David Gergen

This episode is packed with useful strategies, real talk, and a few basement detours—including mafia negotiations, Lucille Ball’s business savvy, and a heated debate over nostalgic TV shows.

Whether you’re trying to grow your wealth, negotiate more confidently, or just dodge financial TikTok traps, we’ve got something in here for you.

FULL SHOW NOTES: https://stackingbenjamins.com/how-to-improve-your-negotiating-skills-with-paula-pant-1718

Deeper dives with curated links, topics, and discussions are in our newsletter, The 201, available at https://www.stackingbenjamins.com/201

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Stacking Benjamins is not for everyone.

0:02.0

Side effects may include euphoria, increased ability to meet your goals and aggression from people wondering, quote, what the hell your secret is?

0:08.4

Stacking Benjamins may be habit forming, especially if you stick around for the entire episode.

0:12.4

Wink.

0:12.7

Please check with your doctor to see if stacking Benjamins is right for you.

0:26.3

Live from Joe's Mob's basement, it's the Stacking Benjamin's show.

0:39.0

I'm Joe's mom's neighbor, Doug, and how are your negotiating skills? We're about to help you pump them up to 11 with the host of the Afford Anything podcast

0:44.5

and negotiation instructor Paula Pant.

0:48.2

In our headline segment, how's your workplace retirement plan performing?

0:52.5

We'll share a study from Morningstar that shows many could be doing better and how to tweak

0:58.3

for better performance.

1:00.2

I'll also share a TikTok minute about how your child could retire with over $4 million,

1:06.1

and then I'll share some incredibly entertaining trivia.

1:10.1

And now, two guys who believe the best side hustle is avoiding lifestyle creep.

1:15.0

It's Joe and O Jha, Jha, Jha, Jee.

1:23.3

Hey there, Stackers.

1:24.9

Yes, making more money for the win, Doug.

1:26.7

I am Joe Saul C-high, Average Joe Money the win, Doug. I am Joe Saul-C-high. Average

1:28.2

your money on Twitter and X. I can stop saying Twitter. Welcome to the podcast that not only

1:35.6

helps you earn more money, helps you save more. And today, to get today, to get to get to

1:40.7

easy for you to say today. Today, negotiate. I can say that word today. Today, come on, Tata, easy for you to say. Today, negotiate.

2:01.2

I could say that word today. Today, come on, say it, man. It's funny back when I stuttered a lot more out loud, people would think they were helping you when they'd say, come on, get it up. You're like, oh, yeah, that doesn't help at all. But the guy that helps us a ton here at Stacky Benjamin's, Mr. O.G. is here. How are you, man?

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