Massive leak exposes how China’s ‘Great Firewall’ is being exported to other countries
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🗓️ 18 October 2025
⏱️ 7 minutes
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| 0:25.9 | It's known as the Great Firewall, and it's what the Chinese government uses to |
| 0:30.4 | censor the Internet inside its country and block access to select foreign websites. |
| 0:35.9 | Now, a leak of tens of thousands of documents shows that a little |
| 0:39.1 | known Chinese company with ties to that firewall is exporting those tools to other countries |
| 0:44.3 | in Africa and Asia, including Myanmar, Pakistan, Kazakhstan, and Ethiopia. |
| 0:50.1 | Recently, I spoke with Zhe Yi Yang, a senior writer at Wired, who has been following the story. |
| 0:56.1 | Zheyeang, thank you so much for joining us. |
| 0:58.4 | First of all, what do we know about the release of these documents itself? |
| 1:02.4 | What does it tell us? |
| 1:03.8 | So this is a trove of over 100,000 documents that came from in Anonymous League. |
| 1:08.8 | And collectively, we see that these documents coming from a Chinese company, |
| 1:12.0 | Gigi networks, shows that they have very advanced capability to monitor the internet |
| 1:16.7 | traffic that goes into a whole country and that they're trying to sell, |
| 1:20.4 | and they have succeeded in selling this technology to some foreign governments. |
| 1:24.4 | And this technology, we believe, also undergirds the great firewall itself. |
| 1:28.6 | So let's take a step back and talk about how that firewall itself works. |
| 1:33.8 | Anyone of the 1.4 billion people in China right now, if they're trying to access internet |
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