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It isn't hard to find advice for how to live a healthier life. It's working that guidance

into your daily routine that can be the most difficult part. Turning those suggestions for

better health into effective policy is the challenge public health

professionals grapple with every day. And right now, officials who work on these issues are under

even more pressure than usual. Just this past weekend, the White House fired about 1,300

staffers at the Centers for Disease Control before rehiring half of them.

Former CDC Director Dr. Tom Frieden's new book, The Formula for Better Health,

takes on these challenges.

In it, he shares lessons from his own public health career about how to close the gap between

awareness of health challenges and the actions needed to solve them.

Dr. Frieden, thank you so much for joining us.

This book spans your experiences over your entire career, which you spent as a disease detective,

as New York City Health Commissioner during a massive tuberculosis outbreak.

You were CDC director during the Ebola crisis,

and then you also witnessed the COVID pandemic as a former CDC director. Why was it important

to you to write this book at this time? I began writing this book a decade ago in the world's

first Ebola epidemic when West Africa was struggling with health

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