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Hacks On Tap

Masks and Gaffes (with John Heilemann)

Hacks On Tap

David Axelrod & Mike Murphy

Politics, Government, News, News Commentary

4.78K Ratings

🗓️ 27 May 2020

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Axe and Murphy are joined by guest hack John Heilemann of The Recount and Showtime’s The Circus. This week we unpack the latest polling, what the Hacks think might move persuadable voters, Biden’s most recent gaffe and how it might impact the veepstakes, convention apprehension, and more. Plus, we answer listener questions on campaign strategy, Arizona's potential to flip from red to blue, and the likelihood of Trump swapping out VP Pence for Nikki Haley. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, pull up a chair.

0:13.0

It's tax on tap with David Axelrod and Mike Murphy.

0:17.0

I'm doing okay. My hands are washed. The house is more or less under control. The six-year-old

0:31.1

has been cornered for an hour. So I'm ready to do a little hacken and tapen with our special

0:36.2

guest. We brought him back, you know. The ringmaster of the circus, the Lord of the

0:42.0

Re-count. John Hyalman, hey brother. Hey man, how are you guys doing? I got to say after

0:46.6

listening to Rob last week, I figured I'd be out of a job here because the dude, like,

0:52.3

I first of all, I was not sure either one of you would be able to do another episode because

0:56.2

he blew the doors off the place and then I thought to myself, he said, he said, a very high

1:00.1

standard for all the rest of us, my God. Pressure's on. Yeah, well, we had to choose carefully

1:04.5

because we knew people would be listening this weekend. We had to have a real pro in

1:09.2

here. Absent that we grabbed you. Yeah, that guy was sick. So by the time we got down to

1:14.8

the H's, it was pretty much one pick. Hitler's nephew or you. So here you are. By that standard,

1:21.5

I'm by that standard, I'm a call 160 days, guys. 160 days from the election. 114 days until

1:30.2

people somewhere in America start voting on early votes. Joe Biden has come outside a

1:37.8

kind of political groundhog situation to signal that the general election is on. And it

1:45.6

feels like, and I know, John, you did a, you did a thing on the, on the recount the other

1:52.7

day about where things stood. I mean, the dynamic is pretty good for Biden right now.

1:58.6

I mean, look, you think about the core six Balagran states and those all six of those states,

2:05.5

Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Florida, North Carolina, Arizona. Why are they the core

2:11.8

six Balagran states that the old six that both sides are advertising get right now, you

2:15.6

know, you guys know you're the hacks, right? It doesn't matter what campaign say, watch

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