Mary Trump’s Truth
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🗓️ 9 July 2020
⏱️ 27 minutes
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Summary
It is impossible to write a surprising book about Donald Trump, but you can’t fault people for trying. Mary Trump writes that her uncle lived an “institutionalized” life, but was plainly never loved by his parents. John Bolton writes that the president is incapable of grasping what’s best for the national interest. Both authors reach familiar conclusions with (somewhat juicy) new details. We’ll take it.
Guest: Washington Post reporter Shane Harris.
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| 0:00.0 | Okay, so Shane, you've had some interesting beach reading this year. |
| 0:08.7 | Yes, it's not how I expected to be spending my summer reading Mary Trump and John Bolton's books, but such is life. |
| 0:16.4 | Shane Harris reports on national security over at the Washington Post. |
| 0:20.5 | He's one of the few people out |
| 0:21.7 | there with early access to the latest Trump world tell-alls. There have been so many of them |
| 0:26.9 | over the last couple of years. You'd be forgiven for wondering, is there really any more to say? |
| 0:33.0 | But these latest books, Shane says, they've gotten particularly blunt. To be clear, one thing I found |
| 0:38.9 | actually kind of interesting about Mary Trump's book is she explicitly says she wants to take |
| 0:43.0 | down Donald Trump, so she's not hiding her cards on why she wants this book out now. |
| 0:48.9 | Mary Trump is Donald Trump's niece. Her book comes out next week. Shane's already absorbed all 240 pages of it. |
| 0:57.3 | Last month, it was John Bolton's memoir. |
| 1:00.1 | He was speed-reading. |
| 1:01.4 | I do think you can read them as companions. |
| 1:04.1 | I have no doubt that they weren't intended to be so. |
| 1:06.6 | But they're both making a strikingly similar argument, |
| 1:10.7 | or really set of arguments about Donald Trump. |
| 1:17.1 | Mary Trump's coming from the perspective of someone who knew him when she was growing up and knew him long before he became president. |
| 1:23.5 | And Bolton, obviously, the perspective of someone who worked with him very closely in the White |
| 1:27.5 | House as his national security advisor. And really the bottom line between these two books is that |
| 1:32.8 | Donald Trump is only in it for himself. He is without empathy. He is incapable of understanding |
| 1:41.0 | a greater good. Everything he does is motivated by his own self-interest. |
| 1:46.5 | And the argument that Mary Trump is making is he has always been this way. |
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