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Mary Sarotte on ‘Not One Inch: America, Russia, and the Making of Post-Cold War Stalemate’

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🗓️ 22 November 2021

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Alexander Vindman sat down with Dr. Mary Sarotte, the author of the new book, “Not One Inch: America, Russia, and the Making of Post-Cold War Stalemate,” to discuss the 1990s and NATO expansion. They discussed how respective decisions by America, Russia and the European Union impacted NATO expansion and today’s geopolitical environment. 

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no bull and the aftermath.

0:33.9

The Norwegians understood that the cost per inch of NATO expansion as measured in units

0:40.8

of damage to Western relations with Russia, the cost per inch went up the closer you got

0:45.4

to Moscow.

0:46.9

And so Norway knew that its membership in NATO was different in many ways than say a Spain's

0:52.0

membership in NATO.

0:53.5

So the Norwegians cognizant of that cost per inch had decided to negotiate special terms,

0:59.4

right?

1:00.4

No nuclear weapons on their territory and the courts, no foreign troops and peace.

1:05.1

That I think should have been a model for central New Stream Europe and for the Baltics,

1:10.8

and that could have been implemented through the partnership with peace.

1:14.4

But instead, and this again is partly because of Yeltsin's choices, in particular in

1:18.8

days of Chechnya, which causes everyone to say, oh, wait a minute, okay, now maybe Russia

1:22.8

is in all that different.

1:24.5

Clinton changes his mind.

1:26.4

Having said, I don't want to draw a new line across Europe, he changed his mind, he

1:29.9

marginalizes the partnership with peace, and he decides to go with all or nothing, article

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five or nothing expansion.

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