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Bishop McKay, great to have you.

It's great to be here.

Last time we met was when, or we're together rather.

Oh, it's been years and years, and even the times we did see each other most recently was very short periods of time.

Yeah.

When was that?

When was I?

I know that your wife came up at one point and visited some mutual friends, the Michelossacks.

And I chatted with her then shortly.

But it's, yeah, it's hard to remember.

You used to be my spiritual director back when I lived in Canada.

When was that, 2011, I guess?

I guess so, yeah.

You were on net staff.

Both of you were at one point, yeah.

And I think I was spiritually directing pretty much everybody on staff at one point.

It's one of those things where I felt bad because I knew that a lot of people were asking you, but like, I don't feel bad enough

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