Mary Lambert: All I Know of Love Is Hunger

LGBTQ&A

Jeffrey Masters

Society & Culture

4.7 • 703 Ratings

🗓️ 12 November 2018

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Mary Lambert talks about coming out in the church, growing up with a bisexual mom, the highs and lows of Same Love (with Macklemore and Ryan Lewis), and the life-saving importance of talking about your trauma. She describes the radical vulnerability in her book of poetry, Shame Is An Ocean I Swim Across, saying, "There's value in being radically vulnerable because it encourages empathy, and that empathy carries over into connection. Connection is what encourages us to stay alive and be accountable to each other." Never miss an update! Sign up for our (short!) newsletter at www.LGBTQpodcast.com LGBTQ&A is hosted by Jeffrey Masters and is part of The Advocate Magazine.

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0:00.0	From the Advocate magazine, this is LGBTQ and A. I'm Jeffrey Masters, and today I'm talking to
0:11.4	the singer-songwriter Mary Lambert. Her new book of poetry is called Shame as an Ocean I Swim
0:17.2	Across, and as you'll hear, Mary describes the book as a practice in radical
0:22.6	vulnerability. And I feel like that is something that is easy to say, perhaps, but her work
0:28.6	and the poems really back that up. So we discuss all of these things as well as, of course, we chat about
0:35.8	Same Love, the MacLamore and Ryan Lewis song that she co-wrote and sang on and how that song changed her entire life.
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0:55.7	So thank you for everyone who's done that. All right, without further ado, here's Mary. Oh my God, okay. Thanks for being here,
1:07.2	by the way. Thanks for having me. Yeah, of course. Nice. Thanks. Okay, let's start.
1:11.2	In your book, you were very open and honest about insecurities and traumas you've experienced,
1:17.7	frankly, a lot more than I expected for a public figure.
1:21.4	You know, you like name drop incest on the first page.
1:24.0	Yeah.
1:24.3	And I just, I wonder, like, if was that your intention to be that revealing and open from
1:28.1	the beginning?
1:29.0	Yeah.
1:29.6	I think, you know, I've never known any other way to be other than, like, radically
1:34.2	vulnerable.
1:35.5	And honestly, it started when I was, like, nine years old.
1:38.8	I referenced this concept.
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