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Killer Psyche

Mary Bell: The 11-Year-Old Killer

Killer Psyche

Wondery | Treefort Media

True Crime, Exhibit C

4.64.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 February 2023

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Former FBI agent and criminal profiler Candice DeLong examines the upsetting case of Mary Bell, an 11-year-old who killed two young boys. While Mary's crimes were horrific, it would be too simplistic to say she was purely evil. She had a tragic backstory, and she was not as one dimensional as many others have portrayed her.


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0:00.0

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0:09.0

A listener note, this episode contains adult content and is not suitable for everyone. Please be advised.

0:18.0

Good vs. Evil

0:28.0

For years, the characters in literature and film were filed into one of those two categories.

0:36.0

Good guys and bad guys.

0:39.0

This way of thinking was very black and white. There was no grey area and characters stayed true to their designation.

0:50.0

Of course, not all art was like this. But in the 70s and 80s, a good number of the popular genres, teen films and action films were scripted with this in mind.

1:05.0

But today, the majority of audiences no longer accept people as simply good or evil.

1:14.0

Villains are given backstories and character arcs. Heroes are often shown in their least heroic moments, making them complex, more like us, and well life in general.

1:30.0

After all, that is why I have a podcast and why you are listening. Right?

1:38.0

When the TV show Batman aired in the mid to late 60s, there was no question about Batman's morality.

1:47.0

He would never break a law or act with impropriety. The show was filled with campy villains who wanted to defeat Batman more than they seemed to want to rob a party.

1:59.0

But Batman's tragic family history was rarely mentioned. And aside from the occasional two-parters, we knew good would defeat evil before the 30-minute episode ended.

2:14.0

Fast forward to recent Batman movies led by Christian Bale, Robert Pattinson, and Ben Afflack.

2:22.0

Batman was no longer a hero. He was an anti-hero. He broke the law while doing good.

2:31.0

The films were dark. The heroes were moody, and the villains were complicated.

2:38.0

Moral ambiguity was rampant. The concepts of right and wrong, not so clear.

2:46.0

I bring all this up, because as I researched this story, I was shocked how many times I heard the words wicked and evil.

2:57.0

Why would I be shocked? Those are fairly common, although not always accurate, descriptions of most killers.

3:07.0

Well, most killers are not 11 years old, like the subject of this episode, Mary Bell.

3:16.0

And while Mary's crimes were indeed horrific, it would be too simplistic to say she was purely evil.

3:25.0

She had a tragic backstory, and she was not one-dimensional, as many others have portrayed her.

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