Here is a big existential question for every media company today. Do they fight the AI

tech overlords or do they just take their money? So far, most of them are taking the money,

but a few are fighting. One of them is Zip Davis. This is Peter Kafka, the host of channels.

And on this week's episode, I'm talking to Zip Davis, CEO of Avec Shah, who tells me he's kind of optimistic about the media business and why he's taking on the people behind chat GPT.

That's this week on channels, wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts.

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I'll just tell you, it is such a pleasure to always be able to come back to the Hall of Fame.

It's like a little piece of home.

You feel like it's a warm hug whenever you're walking in.

If you've listened to our show before,

has anyone listened to our show before?

You have, good.

Thank you.

And it's not just my mother.

Producer Mike, one producer Mike down on the end, say hello.

Hello, John Worth. I'm a longtime tennis journalist uh you may have seen him on such shows at 60 minutes but he also does our dumb little

podcast so here we are but uh producer mike's background is not in tennis uh at all no it's completely

irresponsible for us to have someone producing our show who knows

nothing about tennis. Yeah. But it is fun sometimes because we get a first time or perspective

on things. So Mike, you arrived to the Hall of Fame. You've been here for a couple days.

Give us your thoughts on walking through this piece of magic. First of all,

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