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If the system wants to get you they'll bend and break every single rule

Good afternoon Michael Miles here. Let that be your welcome for the next hour. I am kind of ecstatic about our next guest because this has been Martin Screly's here. He is kind of an internet legend and I'm really excited to talk to him for those who don't know. Martin

I actually made a point not to look up the details of your case because you're one of those people who've had to live. I don't know what to say. Maybe nightmare. Maybe it is nightmare. But you're someone who's been basically tried in public in that people have this whole narrative about you and your life, which I'm sure inside some kind of Plato's cave version is analogous to the fact to the case, but they've constructed this whole persona and biography about you. And now you basically have to live it.

The narrative is that you're this kind of rich kid. You know, you bought some kind of drug. You jacked up the price to some crazy result. It's either an A's drug or a diabetes drug, depending on the narrative. As a result of this poor people couldn't afford it and they're dying. You're smirking all the way. You get arrested. You go to jail. I bet you literally literally 99% of people if you asked them why you went to jail. They would not even be getting to give you a high

hypothesis. But they don't care because you fit into this kind of character that people who grew up with movies in TV have, where you're kind of the villain in a John Cusack movie. And this guy's too big for his own

Riches and good. Let him get his come up in the one part of your biography. I do know is you did not come from money. You grew up in your parents are immigrants. You grew up in sheep said Bay. I grew up in Bensonhurst, which is very much a sister neighborhood to that.

It's hardly Park Avenue to put it mildly. And in fact, to show you a kind of Brooklyn crab I have. I'm going to show you something right here that's going to mean something to you, but not everyone else. Can you see what this is? Of course. Yes.

Did you ever go there? Of course. So Delmar is one of the legit Pizzeria's in Brooklyn. This card is so old doesn't even have the the area code on it.

But let me assure everyone listening to this sheep said Bay is not some bougie place. It's deep in Brooklyn. So can you talk a bit about what that's like in terms of first of all people. There's no really people even know who you are. You know, you were just basically plucked out and just fit into this story that that journalist want to write.

Can you explain like how divergent what I just described is to what the actual story is?

Yeah, I mean, it's it's a very surreal. You know, you kind of I mean, when we grew up, you know, I think we're the same age from the same place. Basically, you know, I used to watch Peter Jennings on ABC.

Yeah, this is like very authoritative serious figure. And I believe everything you said. And I'm wondering if like maybe I was just young and stupid. Yes, you work. Yes.

It was a line for a century when I'm the Spanish American war. It's been yellow journalism ever since.

Yeah, exactly like I don't know if I was just a mark as a as a child. I didn't know better, you know, I just didn't know any better. Or if it's is that transparent today. What the news is, um, I just got a message from Politico.

And maybe, you know, it's up to you as to whether to keep this or not, but Politico just wrote me that they're writing a hit piece, most likely, about my relationship with the vague Ramaswamy.

Okay.

We had on just the other day, right? And I'm just sitting there like I don't really have much of a relationship with them. I mean, he and I were like literally in the exact same field in

on Wall Street, you know, 10 years ago or something. So like, of course, we know each other. But I don't talk to him or anything, you know, maybe, you know, once every couple of years, I say, how are you doing or something like that. But, you know, we're not friends by any stretch of the imagination. We don't hang out. I've never met his wife, et cetera, et cetera, but it's just like this kind of like pulling at all possible strings, which, you know, again, I don't, I think journalists sort of have that duty to do it. But I can't even respond to this person because I know what, you know,

what will happen, you know, they sort of will sit down and they're not interested in the truth. They're interested in whatever can manufacture clicks, whatever can manufacture kind of, you know, attention.

You think it's a clicks and attention. Don't you think they're just trying to take them down as long as now that he's getting to work? Yeah.

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