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Issues, Etc.

Martin Luther, Islam and Christendom in the 16th Century, Part 1 – Dr. Adam Francisco, 5/21/26 (1413)

Issues, Etc.

Lutheran Public Radio

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.81.9K Ratings

🗓️ 21 May 2026

⏱️ 45 minutes

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There's a tremendous amount of confusion about Islam in the United States, particularly among Christians,

0:05.5

who often tend to think that they need to unite with people of faith of all traditions against secularism.

0:13.8

Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch talking about his presentation at the 26 issues, et cetera, making the case conference.

0:28.6

And while there's some truth to that at the same time, Christians should know what Muslims think of them and what Islam teaches about Christianity. I'll be illuminating all that. It's quite shocking, as well as discussing the political aspects of Islam that every American needs to know about.

0:36.6

You can meet and hear Robert Spencer making the case against Islam

0:41.0

at this year's Making the Case Conference Friday, June 12th and Saturday, June 13th at Concordia

0:46.6

University Chicago. Find out more and register at issue ZTC.org or by calling 618-223-8385, making the case June 12th and 13th in River

0:58.6

Forest, Illinois.

1:10.0

It's interesting how the more things change, the more they stay the same.

1:15.6

Islam is considered today a global threat, definitely something that is causing concern because of terrorism.

1:24.6

In Martin Luther's day, it was more organized. It was called the Ottoman Empire,

1:31.0

and it was, well, just knocking, but besieging the gates of Western Europe. Welcome back to Issues,

1:37.9

etc. I'm Todd Wilkin, joining us to begin a two-part series on Martin Luther, Islam Islam and Christendom in the 16th century, Dr.

1:45.8

Adam Francisco. He's director of academics and scholar in residence for 1517,

1:51.4

adjunct professor of history at Concordia University Chicago and author of the new book,

1:55.8

The Turk at the Door. Dr. Francisco, welcome back. Hi, Todd. How are you?

2:09.5

Doing well. Did 16th century reformer Martin Luther really say I'd rather be ruled by a wise Turk than by a foolish Christian?

2:18.6

I've never seen that, and I've looked, I mean, it's been some time, but with all these electronic searchable versions of Luther's works,

2:25.4

I've done pretty comprehensive searches and never found him saying anything like that.

2:32.7

I have heard from, there's a pastor I ran into once at a conference who told me that he actually had located it,

2:40.1

but I've never been able to, I've forgotten his name and could never confirm that. He did one time, it's in the table talk, so these sort of oral anecdotes that his students and friends wrote down, things he said

2:48.0

while he was hanging out with them at the tavern or what have you.

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