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#MARS: CURIOSITY TRACKS. BOB ZIMMERMAN BEHINDTHEBLACK.COM

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🗓️ 30 April 2025

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#MARS: CURIOSITY TRACKS.  BOB ZIMMERMAN BEHINDTHEBLACK.COM

1953

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0:00.0

This is CBS, Eye on the World.

0:06.0

I'm John Batchel.

0:06.8

Behind the Black, Bob Zimmerman is here.

0:09.0

We're in the 20th century, late 20th century.

0:11.7

A huge TV hit, Seinfeld.

0:14.8

If you've seen the episodes you understand,

0:17.0

at some point during episodes where they have to talk through their problems,

0:21.9

they meet at Tom's restaurant on the Upper West Side along Broadway.

0:26.7

Turns out all these years that I was at Tom's, I was in Manhattan for 50 years,

0:32.4

I did not realize what was going on above me, over my head,

0:42.6

an effort to change the way we think of the world.

0:47.0

Bob, what was above me in Tom's all those years? I was dining at Tom's.

0:53.2

Well, I can say this. It's probably not going to be there anymore. But what was there since 61, actually,

0:55.6

was something called the Goddard Institute for Space Studies. And this was a NASA division. This was a NASA office in that building.

1:03.1

And it was put there in 61 with the idea that it would be near Columbia University and they could

1:07.8

do NASA's space studies in conjunction with the university and

1:12.3

this would be a good thing and actually it is a good thing. It was a good idea to a certain

1:16.1

extent. But the trouble is in the last two decades, the people running the Goddard Institute

1:21.4

of Space Studies shifted their focus entirely to climate studies and their focus in the last 20 years is to, was to tamper with science data, to cool the

1:33.0

temperature numbers from the past, for no justification, and to warm the numbers in the

1:38.1

present in the last few years under no justification, to make it appear that the climate

1:43.2

was warming.

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