Passion is not always going to be at a red hot tent.

That's right.

And so the friendship is what carries you.

It carries you into the place of being lovers, but it carries you through the hard seasons.

It's fun.

It's more enjoyable in the joyful seasons to have a friend with you.

And so it's essential to have that friendship at the core because the other, you know, is important,

obviously, but that comes out of the friendship.

We read, when we wrote the book Real Marriage, we read a massive stack of books.

And virtually, or perhaps none of them really in any detail talked about friendship and marriage.

It's like marriage and friendship are two different categories.

And for us, it's absolutely crucial.

This is why you should be friends before you're married.

You should be friends while you're married.

And when your kids leave home, you better be friends.

Well, howdy y'all?

Pastor Mark here, welcoming you back to the Real Marriage Podcast.

If you don't know, we got a brand new book, my wife, Grace, and I.

It's called Real Romance, and it's on sex in The Song of Songs.

And, hey, if you're not having sex, we want to help.

If you're having sex, we want you to have more and better sex.

And if you're doing really great, congratulations, you're officially a unicorn. The book is now

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