Mike Green, I'm here in Marin County again and eventually I'll get a chance to pick up

and travel.

One of the first places I look forward to going is down to Los Angeles to see my friend

Marco Papic, but Marco has been kind enough to join us on screen.

Marco, you're the chief strategist slash super intelligent geopolitical thinker at a firm

that's near and dear to my heart, clock tower group.

Can you just give us a very brief background on what you do at clock tower and how you've

kind of come to the seat that you're in?

Okay, so yeah, I mean, I was in Southside Research before this.

I worked for BC a research, which is the macro firm that focuses on investment research

before that.

I was in geopolitical risk consulting.

So I come to finance from a little bit of a different background, did a lot of political

risk and then took that to Southside Research and then I wrote a book, which just came out

kind of a book handing that research experience and then oh, there it is.

Look at that.

It's geopolitical alpha, which has one of the best intros of any finance book that I've

ever read.

It is on par with some of my favorite stories in terms of the dynamic of being called

in as a very young employee to answer the question of how important it was that the

German president had resigned and your answer was my answer was I don't know who the

German president is and yeah, so that's that's how I start off.

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