The time to be timid is past. The age of incrementalism is over. Now is our moment to think big, to build big. This is what this election is all about.

Welcome to Deconstructed. I'm Ryan Grim, Philly and once again for Medihasson, who this time we promise will definitely be back soon and he'll tell you what he's been up to.

But before he does, we're going to take a look at this week's much discussed Democratic primaries in Massachusetts, starting with Ed Markey's victory in the party senate primary.

He had had our back in a really big way over the course of last year and you know so when we heard that he was facing a tough real action fight we knew that we had to take a stand.

That's one of my guests today, Evan Weber, political director of the Sunrise movement, the youth led climate action movement that through its weight behind the Markey campaign and ultimately helped him to a surprisingly comfortable victory over his challenger, Joe Kennedy III.

I'll also speak to his colleague, Sunrise's creative director, Alex O'Keefe. We'll discuss the Markey win but also the primary loss of another Sunrise-backed candidate, Alex Morse, who tried to unseat ways and means Chairman Richard Neill in Massachusetts' first district.

And today on the show, what can we learn from the Massachusetts primaries?

A year ago, Joe Kennedy III looked like a real threat to Ed Markey, the incumbent in the 2020 Massachusetts senate election.

No Kennedy had ever lost an election in Massachusetts. Kennedy was in his late 30s compared to the 74-year-old Markey and he had a big advantage in the polls, especially with black, rural and lower income voters.

And yet, in the Massachusetts primary senator Ed Markey became the first person to ever defeat a member of the Kennedy family in that state.

I called Senator Markey to congratulate him and to pledge my support.

When all the votes are counted, this is going to end up being something like a 10-point win for Ed Markey.

So what went wrong? Kennedy, it turned out, was never able to give a convincing answer as to why he was running in the first place.

Given his platforms apparent similarity to Markey's. Oddly, that was the same unanswerable question that had be devolved his great uncle's presidential campaign in 1980.

Why do you want to be president? Well, I'm...

We're right to make the announcement and to run the reasons that I would run is because I have a great belief in this country that it is as more natural resources than any nation of the world.

At rambling answer came before Ted Kennedy had even announced his run and it was over before it had begun.

In 2020, his great nephews race turned at the end on the meaning of the Kennedy legacy.

And as we'll talk about later during our interview, it was sunrise and Markey that baited Kennedy into a trap.

In the closing days, his campaign released an ad in which Markey inverted JFK's most famous adage, telling voters.

With all due respect, it's time to start asking what your country can do for you.

In a fronted Kennedy went on the attack and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a long time friend of the Kennedy family, jumped in the race to defend the Klan's honor.

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