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I'm John Thatcher with my colleague, Elizabeth Peek.

We're looking at the appointment, the recommendation by the President-elect, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., until recently campaigning for the presidency, to be Secretary of HHS, Health and Human Services, which is an impossible job.

All you can do is do television because you have no idea what's going on.

Nobody else does either.

So I don't imagine this is like a General Isamo taking an army into battle.

You think it's not a terrible idea, Liz, because it's disruptive.

Is that correct? You know, what

RFK Jr. would argue is that our country is not well. And I agree with him 100%. And part of the

reason is we're spending money probably on the wrong things in the wrong way, but just a couple of

factoid that your listeners might enjoy hearing,

John.

One is that we are spending twice as much per person in America on health care as not all the

countries in the world, including poor ones, as all the other wealthy OECD countries,

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