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THE OFFICIAL MEA CULPA WITH MICHAEL COHEN ARCHIVE

Mark Meadows Will Put the Smoking Gun in Trumps Hands + A Conversation With Norm Eisen

THE OFFICIAL MEA CULPA WITH MICHAEL COHEN ARCHIVE

Audio Up Media

News, Politics

4.78.8K Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2026

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Norm Eisen is back with us today to unpack the repercussions of Mark Meadows testimony against Donald Trump along with a slew of recent defectors from Sidney Powell to Jenna Ellis. Each one of these is a body blow to Trump's weakening defense. But Meadows could put the smoking gun in his hand. If you happen to be tuning in for the first time, Eisen is a CNN Legal Analyst and the founder and executive chair of “States United Democracy Center”, a nonpartisan organization advancing free, fair, and secure elections. His articles for the Brookings Institute and elsewhere have made the case for why Trump and his band of criminal conspiracists represented a clear and present danger to democracy. The former Obama Ethics Czar and Ambassador to the Czech Republic joins us today to get to the heart of what’s going on. 

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Audio prop.

0:34.7

This is my Mayor Culper.

0:38.3

Oh, baby, don't lie for me.

0:40.4

If I tell you my story, don't cry for me.

0:43.7

I'll tell me time that's fun by me.

0:46.0

This is my Mayor Coppa.

0:51.8

This is Michael Cohen, and you're listening to the Mayor Culper podcast.

0:56.6

One by one, all of Trump's men and women, a tight circle of co-conspirators who vowed their eternal loyalty,

1:05.0

had begun to flip as the reality of what that loyalty will cost them has come to light.

1:13.1

In the last week alone,

1:20.6

three, three prominent co-defendants, Jenna Ellis, Kenneth Chesbrough, and Sidney Powell have all struck deals with the district attorney, and the former president and his team are expecting

1:26.1

more to come.

1:27.9

So last week, ABC News reported that former Trump chief of staff Mark the Moron Meadows

1:34.4

was granted full immunity to testify under oath and has spoken at least three times with

1:40.6

prosecutors from the special counsel's office investigating Trump's attempts to overturn

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