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Hello, America. Mark Levin here. Our number 877-3813-811-8773-813811.

I've been doing a lot of thinking about what we're facing these days and so what do I do? I've been going back and studying even further.

Rousseau Hegel on the specially marks and angles. Stick with me, stay with me, because to understand these people is to understand what's happening in our country.

You know, in about the mid-1800s, marks and angles believed that interventionism, step by step by step through legislation, through court decisions, that Marxism would be realized.

And then they decided, I guess it was the 1860s or so, that that wasn't good enough.

Then in fact, interventionism, or you would call it economic socialism, was a problem because it was actually interfering with their final solution.

So they would eventually abandon interventionism for violent revolution.

And this is why you would have these bloody wars and civil wars.

And so the debate is between interventionism and immediacy. And we see that debate in our own country among the Democrats and of course the media and the rest of them.

It's no longer debate on what's preferable, that is capitalism or economic socialism, sovereignty or an open border.

Federalism or centralized government? No. The debate is now how do we achieve these ends? How do we achieve these ends?

And so if you believe, as Marx did, that communism is inevitable, communism is bigger than economics, communism is a cultural, cultural devouring of our society.

Then you're really not interested in influencing, you prod, and you pull and you push and ultimately you impose.

Because it's inevitable. Freedom, the thinking goes, leaves a vacuum.

Even though it's the greatest characteristic of a great nation, even though it is the core to justice, freedom and virtue.

Freedom leaves a vacuum for fascism, for Marxism and all the other isms.

People who take advantage of freedom and use freedom to empower themselves.

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