Hey, everybody. It's me, Sam Stein. Managing Editor to Bloch, and I am pleased to be joined by Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona.

Thank you so much for doing this. Senator Kelly. Really appreciate it. You are joining us. It's Tuesday. It's October 28th. It's 12, 15.

About an hour ago, we got word that the United States has made another strike in the Caribbean,

this time four strikes actually with the reported 14 killed.

Again, this is allegedly targeting drugboats, but we just don't know what's going on with respect to this operation.

You were pretty outspoken over the weekend about

what you think is dubious legality around this. And I'm just sort of curious if you can walk us

through what actually you have been told by the administration and why you feel as skeptical

as you feel about the legality of these operations?

Well, I sit on the Armed Services and the Intelligence Committees.

We've been briefed on both of these strikes, obviously in a secure facility, so I'm not going to go into great detail on this.

But, you know, I will say, let me start by saying, I think we all want the same thing.

We do not want drugs coming into our country, especially fentanyl, but other drugs as well,

cocaine or anything else that's getting trafficked from South America into the United States.

So that's the goal.

Traditionally, we've done this through law enforcement actions.

The Coast Guard does this.

Sometimes in support with the Navy.

Like the Navy can conduct some operations with Coast Guard people on board because they're law enforcement.

What the administration is doing, they have tried to explain to us how designating these groups as terrorist organizations allows us to just go and conduct kinetic strikes and kill them.

I don't think I've seen anything like this. Well, I know I haven't in my lifetime.

I spent 25 years in the United States Navy for us to make a decision that something is clearly

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