Mark Esper: Fighting For Trump's Agenda, Not Trump

The Untold Story with Martha MacCallum

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4.6 • 775 Ratings

🗓️ 12 May 2022

⏱️ 13 minutes

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This week, Martha sits down with former Secretary of Defense under the Trump administration, Mark Esper, who explains why he believes President Vladimir Putin ultimately decided to invade Ukraine. Then, Secretary Esper gives an inside look at the Trump presidency. He tells Martha where he believes Trump was successful, and where he went wrong. Then he details why he and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley took steps in the final days of the Trump presidency to ensure the military wouldn't be used to overturn the election. Follow Martha on Twitter: @MarthaMacCallum Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:56.5	Today, Today on the untold story, I have the wonderful opportunity to talk to the former Secretary of Defense, Mark Esper, whose brand new book, A Sacred Oath, Memoirs of a Secretary of Defense during extraordinary times has just come out.
0:57.3	It looks at the period from June of 2019 until his firing by President Trump after the November
1:03.0	2020 election.
1:04.7	He led the Department of Defense through really an unprecedented time in history, and we
1:09.4	are very glad to have them with us today.
1:11.5	Secretary, nice to join you. Thanks, Martha. Great to be with you. Thank you. So, you know,
1:16.0	obviously one of the biggest issues right now is what's going on in Ukraine and Russia. And I want
1:21.5	to start there because there's obviously some Ukraine history that you detail in this book as well.
1:25.8	But today is May 9th. This podcast will be heard
1:29.4	throughout the course of this week. But this is a quote, a soundbite, I should say, from President
1:35.3	Putin, talking about the victory day, May 9th, the anniversary of victory over the Nazis in Russia.
1:45.4	And here's what he had to say.
1:52.0	You're fighting for the homeland for its future so that no one forgets the lessons of World War II,
1:56.4	so that there's no place in the world for executioners, punishers, and Nazis.
2:15.1	You know, given your history and the fight that you had with the president to provide that $250 million in military assistance to Ukraine, were you shocked, surprised by the fact that Vladimir Putin actually did invade and has been so brutal inside of Ukraine?
2:21.5	Well, first of all, you're right. It is tragic, and it's horrendous what Putin is doing in Ukraine.
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