Welcome to Untangle, the podcast from Five Star App Meditation Studio.

I'm Patricia Carpice, co-founder of Meditation Studio and your host on Untangle, along with

my co-host every other week, Ariel Garten, co-founder of Muse, the brain sensing headband.

Join us each week as we introduce you to authors,

experts, and thought leaders who share their stories on how meditation and mindfulness practices

have the power to change our lives. Today, we're lucky to have Mark Coleman back on Untangle

with his new book. Mark is a therapist, coach, mindfulness teacher, and trainer, and the author of three

pretty cool books. I think he's one of the best mindfulness teachers out there. He also leads

retreats out in nature through his organization called Awake in the Wild. We talked about his most

recent book, From Suffering to Peace, the true promise of mindfulness.

In this book, he gets to the heart of what mindfulness really is and defines it in some pretty

simple but powerful terms.

It is, he says, a depth of awareness that we bring to life and the clarity that we need to

meet the changing and challenging circumstances

we face, many of which are out of our control. The giant lesson I've learned after reading

hundreds of books on the topic is that we actually have to do the practices to see progress.

Our minds, if left to their own devices, will spin stories and

ruminations and ruthlessly judge. He shares many ideas on how we can hold our difficulties

with greater ease, quiet the ruminations, and live our lives more peacefully, and to their

full potential. I'm up for that. Now, here's Mark.

Mark, it's so great to have you back on Untangle today. Thanks so much for being here.

Great to be with you, Patricia. And I just finished your new book from suffering to peace,

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