And if Joe Biden thinks bipartisan is ship is the answer to everything, he is also sorely

mistaken.

It is a piece of the puzzle.

It is not the complete picture.

But he is not willing to convey that.

Look, it's a hard uphill battle in today's moment.

We try to do it.

You can't do it in a sound bite and you surely can't do it when you're being defensive.

And telling Cory Booker a black man that he needs to be the one to apologize about this

conversation about reparations, are you kidding me?

He just seems unwilling to listen to his advisors, to shift his approach, and he wants to keep

doing the same thing, which is I'm the nice guy, I'm the moderate, I'll get it done.

The game has changed, my friend.

The game has changed.

This is Sarah.

This is Beth, your listening to Pantzoo politics.

The home of graceful political conversations.

Happy Friday, everyone.

Today, we are going to talk about our conversation with Mark Charles on Tuesday because we have gotten

so much and so varied feedback.

With some people's favorite conversation, it was some people's least favorite conversation

and we want to explore all of that, particularly because there has been some news that touches

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