I'm recording on that so if you guys keep talking it's fine.

Don't me?

So we'll get this thing.

So how did all this start for you?

Like where did your journey start in fighting wrestling grappling?. I come from a long line three generations

of wrestlers that are all up on that wall over there my grandfather my father

all my uncles my little brother my father took uncles, my little brother, my father took State in Illinois, my little

brother took State here, my uncle is the D.T. National Champions, so I kind of grew up wrestling

stuff. And then where I was raised was in the South Valley of Albuquerque.

And it's a good place, but it's kind of rough and tumble.

And so pretty much in it's a very our state is one of the worst as far as

poverty and then that's the probably the worst part of it with that and maybe the war zone.

There's a couple of places that probably buy for number one, but...

A place called the war zone?

Yeah, well, we call it the international district.

But, Albuquerque, just because we have such so many

we're such a low economic we're on the low economic run so there that we have all

the problems that come with that so at that we have all the problems that come with that. So at that time the people I was growing up around some of the best people in the world, but then also some people that didn't care about anything

like that.

I'd beat him up. So I started, I didn't see a Bruce League movie or anything like that.

It was all necessity-based, like I needed to fight tomorrow.

So martial arts kind of bounced around a little bit and then like a lot of

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