Hello, everyone. Welcome back to Just the Good Stuff. This is your host, Rachel Mansfield.

And today's episode is with the cheese queen herself, Marissa Mullen. Marissa is a Brooklyn-based,

best-selling author, entrepreneur, food stylists, and content creator. She is the founder of That

Cheeseplate, a global community for cheeseplate inspiration, recipes, and content creator. She is the founder of that cheese plate, a global community

for cheese plate inspiration recipes, and the creator of the cheese by numbers method,

which is a step-by-step approach to creative food styling. It's genius in my opinion. She's also

known for pioneering the cheese and turquitory trend in popular culture today and creating art out of simplicity.

In addition to photography and recipe development, Marissa teaches that cheese class, the original

Build Your Own Board Workshop, and she is the resident cheese contributor over at Food 52.

Her debut cookbook, That Cheeseplate will change your life, focuses on how crafting

a cheeseplate can be grounding and a meditative activity. This book inspired many and was awarded

as Amazon's editor's pick for 2020, listed on Walshie Journal's bestseller list, and her anticipated

second cookbook, That Cheeseplate wants to party, just came out and it is gorgeous and amazing

and truly one of my favorite cookbooks that I have looked at and read in quite some time.

This is a how-to guide to turn any gathering into a cheese-filled opportunity for connection

featuring 40 new cheese board ideas for parties of all kinds. And she even has musical playlist to go along with

them. It's very beautifully curated and crafted. I love this book so much. I'm linking to it in the

show notes as well. Now, Marissa is the cheese guru. She fills us in on all things cheese, which

those of you who know me, you know that I personally don't even really like cheese. And I was still

so inspired by this conversation. And I learned so much. And if you don't know me that well and you're

like, Rachel, what do you mean you don't like cheese? Here's my thing. I love like feta. I like

goat cheese. I like cheese melted on pizza. But like you'll never see me with the charcutta

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