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The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens

Mario Giampietro: "Models with Meaning - Changing Social Practices"

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens

Nate Hagens

Science, Earth Sciences, Natural Sciences

4.8553 Ratings

🗓️ 31 January 2024

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

On this episode, Nate is joined by biophysical analyst Mario Giampietro to unpack his decades of research on a wide-lens view of the challenges facing the human system. With current metrics that only optimize for one variable, increasingly reductionist academic fields, and scientific communication consistently falling short, researchers who look at how all the pieces of our predicament fit together and most effectively help others understand will become more essential. How does the scope with which we look at a problem affect the subsequent information we gather and decisions we make? In what way should we frame the narratives that we create to best inform our leaders and the public about the obstacles of the future? Will taking on these issues from a different lens help to create better, multi-dimensional responses that include biophysical, cultural, and social components as we move into the coming decades?  

About Mario Giampietro:

Mario Giampietro has recently retired from the Catalan Institution for Research and Advanced Studies (ICREA), Barcelona. Until September 2023, he was ICREA Research Professor at the Institute of Environmental Science and Technology of the Universitat Autònoma de Barcelona, Spain. He has dedicated his academic career to the integrated assessment of (uncomfortable) sustainability issues using concepts from complex systems theory. He has developed a novel methodology, Multi-Scale Integrated Analysis of Societal and Ecosystem Metabolism (MuSIASEM), that integrates biophysical and socioeconomic variables across multiple scales, thus establishing a link between the metabolism of socio-economic systems and potential constraints of the natural environment. Recent research has focused on the nexus between land use, food, energy, and water in relation to SDGs. He has (co)authored over 150 publications, including six books. 

For Show Notes and More visit: https://www.thegreatsimplification.com/episode/107-mario-giampietro  

To watch this video episode on Youtube → https://youtu.be/HFZ3NPPPPS0 

 

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to the Great Simplification.

0:05.5

I'm Nate Higgins.

0:06.7

On this show, we describe how energy, the economy, the environment, and human behavior all fit together and what it might mean for our future.

0:15.7

By sharing insights from global thinkers, we hope to inform and inspire more humans to play emergent roles

0:22.5

in the coming great simplification.

0:28.1

Today's guest is recently retired professor of environmental science and technology,

0:35.8

Mario G.M. Pietro from the Catalan Institution for Research and Advanced

0:41.9

Studies in Barcelona, Spain.

0:44.8

I knew of Mario's work back when I was getting my PhD on an acronym called Musiasem,

0:51.9

which stands for multi-scale, integrated analysis of societal and

0:56.9

ecosystem metabolism.

0:59.6

Mario has an academic background in chemistry, biology, and social sciences, and is authored

1:06.4

or co-authored over 100 academic articles and written many books on sustainability, energy analysis,

1:13.7

and agriculture, including the biofuel delusion and resource accounting for sustainability

1:19.9

assessment. I have found that biophysical analyst, perhaps especially Spanish ones, are able to speak truth to power.

1:30.1

And I think you will see what I mean by that in this conversation with Dr. Mario Gempietro.

1:36.8

Thank you.

1:52.7

Hi, and nice being here with you.

1:55.9

Congratulations on your recent retirement.

1:59.5

This is a big event.

2:01.9

So I am now blessed having this podcast that suddenly I get to have conversations with all the people

2:11.8

that 15 years ago when I was getting my PhD were the rock stars in the fields of

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