Hey, fam, welcome to the free trail podcast. Of course, I am your loving host, Dylan Bowman.

Joined today by my good friend Mario Fraoli, the multiple time guest on the program.

Mario is one of the most respected voices in the global running ecosystem.

He is one of my personal idols as a media operator and as a podcaster, and he's also a passionate athlete and coach. If you're listening

to this, you probably already know that Mario is the author of the Morning Shakeout Newsletter

and the host of the podcast with the same name, some of the best content and commentary in the

sport across road track and trail. Mario and I recorded an episode about this time last year,

where we discussed our respective careers as people trying to make a living in the sport.

So here we are back again doing it another time. I'm hoping this will maybe become an annual

tradition. We recorded this at my house last week in person. It was the first

in person episode I've done in a long time, and I have to say, I hope to do a lot more of

these in the future. We start the conversation talking about Mario's race at the New Balance Grand Prix,

racing and finishing second in the master's event in the mile where he ran a silly fast four minutes

and 30 seconds we then transitioned to talk about the morning shakeout career stuff we talk about

some burnout mario has experience specifically with his podcast where he has pressed pause

and put the show on hold for a bit. We talk about interacting with

creative energy. We talk about being a solo creator versus working in an organization. We talk

about the emotional investment of coaching, who Mario admires, what he's learned from running,

and a lot more. Mario is such a good person.

Glad to call him a friend and I hope you all enjoy the episode.

As always, a big thank you to Speedland,

our presenting sponsor and the supporter of everything that we do here at Free Trail,

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