Marietje Schaake on Reclaiming Democratic Control of the Internet
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🗓️ 12 November 2020
⏱️ 54 minutes
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On this episode of Lawfare's Arbiters of Truth series on disinformation, Evelyn Douek and Quinta Jurecic spoke to Marietje Schaake about how Europe is not necessarily waiting for America to get its act together and is moving ahead with tech regulation. Marietje served as a Member of European Parliament for 10 years for the Dutch liberal democratic party and is now the international policy director at Stanford University’s Cyber Policy Center and international policy fellow at Stanford’s Institute for Human-Centered Artificial Intelligence. They spoke about what’s happening in Europe in the tech space, what distance there may be between European and American ideas about regulation of tech platforms, and whether that distance is bridgeable—especially under a Biden administration.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:34.0 | If there's ever more pressure on the tech platforms to solve certain problems, it puts |
| 0:38.3 | more discretionary power into their hands, makes it harder to understand what cause and |
| 0:43.1 | effect are of these privatized governance decisions, and further erodes democracy in the name |
| 0:48.8 | of strengthening the democratic debate. |
| 0:50.9 | And so we have to break that cycle by going back to what legitimacy to govern. |
| 0:57.3 | Do we want leaders to have? |
| 0:58.9 | I'm Kuntadjeresik and this is the LawFair podcast, November 12th, 2020. |
| 1:07.2 | It's another episode of our Arbitus of Truth series on disinformation. |
| 1:11.7 | First a programming node, where where there's been a big story on our beat. |
| 1:16.0 | The US 2020 election was billed as the disinformation superbowl for social media platforms, |
| 1:21.2 | and many rolled out exceptional measures and policies in preparation for and during |
| 1:25.5 | the election in its aftermath. |
| 1:27.8 | In the coming weeks, we're going to talk to a number of people to dissect what happened |
| 1:31.6 | and what went wrong or right. |
| 1:33.8 | This week though, we're bringing you an episode about the future of online speech that |
| 1:38.1 | will be relevant whatever happens in the US. |
| 1:41.1 | Evelyn Dwack and I spoke to Marie Cheshaka about how Europe is not necessarily waiting |
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