Welcome to the commune podcast. My name is Jeff Grasnow. Today I'm joined by my friend, author, spiritual teacher, and former presidential candidate, Marianne Williamson. We cover a variety of topics, including what is happening over at Health and Human Services. I consider Bobby a friend. So I'm not saying anything I wouldn't say to his face.

What are you talking about you're making America healthier?

Mary Ann and I had the opportunity to talk on Substack Live,

and you can catch more of my conversations live over there.

Today we cover a lot of ground, including what she's currently seeing in D.C. right now.

You can give it all kinds of fancy names, but that's what it is. The city is being occupied.

It is being occupied by National Guard. It is being occupied by federal troops. More troops coming in.

National guards from other states. What she thinks about the state of our political system?

Many people in the judiciary are standing up to him and have done so very courageously.

And it's not just Democrats either. There are Republican judges around this country.

There are Republicans as well as Democrats who are standing up. Now, this is not about left

versus right. This is not about Democrat versus Republican.

And of course, what she thinks about the American people.

I know from experience when you are out there,

and you know this as well, you speak noble truth to people.

People respond to noble truth.

We are good people.

My God, we're going to be the first generation to

wimp out on putting this country back on track when we have so gone off the rails.

Here's my conversation with Mary Ann Williamson. Great to be with you. Great to be with you,

always. So you find yourself in Washington, D.C.?

Yes.

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