From the campus of Hillsdale College in Hillsdale, Michigan, this is the Radio Free Hillsdale Hour, bringing the activity and education of the college to listeners across the country.

Here's your host, Scott Bertram.

Hello again, everybody, and welcome in to another edition

of the Radio Free Hillsdale Hour. On today's program, we'll talk with Matt Spalding on President

Trump's emergency declaration for the southern border. John Marini joins us to discuss his new book

on masking the administrative state. Melissa Kadeck from Hillsdale will discuss her research into the musical mental mind.

And finally, Charles Steele returns to talk about the climate and the economy.

First, joining us now is Dr. Matt Spalding,

Associate Vice President and Dean of Educational Programs for Hillsdale College in Washington, D.C.

Dr. Spalding, thanks for joining us.

It's great to be with you. And we look forward to many visits with you here as the podcast.

And the radio show is just underway. We'll talk a lot to Dr. Spalding.

I wanted to discuss today, President Trump's declaration of a national emergency on the southern

border. The president, of course, has made the declaration.

Democrats, especially in the House, are sort of plotting how they want to fight back, if possible.

How did we even get to this position? Well, it's, we can kind of, we'll probably circle around

and come back to this at the end, but it's, it's interesting about why we're here, which is that it's a budgetary question that the president was trying to push

with Congress.

But Congress, for many reasons for a long time now, has really never passed budgets,

and they don't do that anymore.

What they do is they pass

omnibus legislation, these massive pieces of legislation, which we end up having fights over,

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