Are ads purely destructive or negative to the user experience or are they actually, if done properly, are they actually either neutral or even positive?

You know, if you're not Apple, do you really want to be a company that basically sits there and says, yeah, the world's moving and we're very deliberately not going to lean as hard as we can into it? I think there's a lot of survivorship bias in these kinds of strategy discussions where people look at the one company that's able to pull this off and they don't look at the 50 other companies that are in the graveyard because they

didn't adapt. Mark and Dresen went live on TPP on this week and today we're dropping that full

conversation here on the pot. Mark gets into it all what's really happening in AI right now, how Apple

was playing its hand, the return of open source,

and why perfect products can signal the end, not the peak.

He also shares his take on how to break into venture capital in 2025 and when he's actually

using AI for day to day.

Let's get into it.

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We have Mark Andreessen joining us. He's live from the TBPNLTJUM. Welcome to the stream. How you doing, Mark?

Hey, what's happening? Great to see you. Yeah, you too. A lot. It's a little bit of a slow news day,

but exciting stuff with GPT open source. It's not a slow August. It's not a slow August. We're glad.

We were just reflecting that we've taken exactly one day off this summer that was July 4th and we're showing the Europeans how American

companies work. American work. We're setting an example and we have proof of work because we

exist on the internet and you can see us live every day. So we're setting an example. How are you doing?

How's your summer going? Fantastic. Going really well. So how long is it going to be until you

guys put up avatars that make claims that you're working hard all through the summer, but it turns out

you're on the beach? You might have caught us. I think you'll know better than us as to when the

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