People fell in love with Jimity Cricket. They're falling in love with their AI chatbots. Like 100%. No question.

And they're probably going to worship their AI. There's probably going to be AI religions. I believe that to be true. We all believe in the industry. We all believe that within a small number of years, we're going to have the chat GPT kind of moment for robots where general purpose robots are going to start to really work. And so then you're going to have physical a.

And it's going to be amazing and a little bit strange when it starts because you're going

to have this robot that's like, I don't know, clearing your dishes.

And it's also going to be like Einstein-level smart when it comes to quantum physics. AIs are already solving math problems that have been around for 100 years that no human mathematician could solve. They're going to be developing new drugs. they're going to be curing cancer, they're going to be achieving new kinds of spaceflight, like new physics, like all kinds of stuff that's going to come out the other end of this.

Ships are made out of sand. They're made out be curing cancer. They're going to be achieving new kinds of spaceflight, like new physics, like all kinds of stuff,

is going to come out the other end of this.

Chips are made out of sand.

They're made out of silicon. So they're literally made out of sand. And so we gather up sand and a whole bunch of other stuff and we apply all this advanced manufacturing technology to it. We create the chip. We plug the chip into a data center into power. we light it up and we put AI on it,

and all of a sudden it's thinking.

And so we've turned sand into thought.

For decades, computing was about profiting. enter into power, we light it up and we put AI on it, and all of a sudden it's thinking. And so we turn sand into thought.

For decades, computing was about processing information faster.

But AI changes the equation.

Instead of just storing or transmitting knowledge, these systems can increasingly reason,

generate, and act.

That shift is already transforming software, medicine, education, and media.

At the same time, it's forcing bigger questions about labor, politics, surveillance, and power,

especially as countries raised to define the systems that may shape the next era of civilization.

Mark Andreessen sees this moment less as the arrival of automation, and more as the arrival

of universal cognitive leverage, tools that dramatically expand what individuals can do.

In this conversation, taken from the Joe Rogan experience, Andrewson discusses AI, California, human agency, and what the next 20 years may look like.

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