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All In The Mind

Managing your emotions so they don't manage you

All In The Mind

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Life Sciences, Health & Fitness, Science

4.4785 Ratings

🗓️ 31 May 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Avoiding your emotions is generally a recipe for disaster — but Ethan Kross makes a case for occasional 'strategic' avoidance.

He’s a professor of psychology from the University of Michigan, and he’s appeared in some of our most popular episodes: Controlling the chatter in your head and What influences your inner voice? Controlling 'chatter' part two.

He’s back to share more tools for taking charge of your emotions.

Guests:

Ethan Kross, PhDProfessor of Psychology and Management, University of MichiganAuthor, Shift: Managing Your Emotions—So They Don't Manage You

Credits:

  • Presenter/producer: Sana Qadar
  • Senior producer: James Bullen
  • Producer: Rose Kerr
  • Sound engineer: Dylan Prins

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:09.2

Do you feel like you have control over your emotions, or do your emotions rule you?

0:15.6

If you're not able to manage your distractions, you're probably not going to be able to focus and study as much.

0:21.4

If you're not able to manage your temptations, you're probably going to consume substances

0:26.5

that aren't as good for your health.

0:28.2

This is Ethan Cross.

0:29.6

He's a professor of psychology at the University of Michigan, where he also directs the

0:33.8

emotion and self-control lab.

0:36.2

And if you're a longtime listener of All In

0:38.3

the Mind, you'll recognize him from our episodes on chatter.

0:42.3

That is, your internal monologue when it spirals into rumination.

0:46.4

When people tell me that they experience chatter, which is really the dark side of the inner

0:51.7

voice, it's an example.

0:53.1

Those episodes were some of our most popular ever.

0:56.9

And some of you, our listeners,

0:58.7

have been asking us to bring Ethan back on the show

1:01.2

to discuss the ideas in his new book, Shift,

1:05.2

how to manage your emotions so they don't manage you.

1:09.5

So, we listened.

1:10.8

People were just so curious about their so they don't manage you. So, we listened.

1:16.0

People were just so curious about their emotional lives,

1:17.9

wanting to understand those lives,

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