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The Rich Roll Podcast

Malcolm Gladwell Is Lord Of All Things Overlooked and Misunderstood

The Rich Roll Podcast

Rich Roll

Health & Fitness, Education, Self-improvement, Society & Culture

4.8 • 12.9K Ratings

🗓️ 18 July 2022

⏱️ 123 minutes

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Summary

What are the limits of human performance? How can we reimagine sport to boost lifelong adoption? And what is the athlete’s role in moving culture forward? Today we explore these questions and tons more with the lord of all things overlooked and misunderstood, Malcolm Gladwell. I suspect most of you are very familiar with Malcolm. Perhaps you’ve listened to his sensational podcast Revisionist History, where every episode re-examines something from the past—an event, a person, an idea, even a song—and asks whether our collective stories got it right the first time. Or maybe you’ve read one of his six New York Times best sellers, such as The Tipping Point,Blink, Outliers, David and Goliath, and Talking to Strangers. Today’s conversation begins with running, extends to sport, broadens into a conversation about the role of athletes in moving society forward, and (of course) unearths other topics overlooked and misunderstood—all in true Gladwellian style. We talk about his latest podcast, Legacy of Speed, and why this terrain just might be his most Gladwellian project to date. Malcolm also shares several of his orthogonal ideas around education, publishing, the future of audio, creativity, and many more fascinating topics. Today’s episode is also viewable on YouTube. More about Malcom + show notes: https://bit.ly/richroll692a Today’s Sponsors: Athletic Greens: 75 whole food sourced ingredients designed to optimize 5 key areas of health. Go to: athleticgreens.com/richroll to get a FREE year supply of Vitamin D ​AND​ 5 free travel packs of AG1 with your first purchase. Indeed delivers 4x more hires than all other job sites combined, so you can meet and hire great people faster. Visit Indeed.com/RICHROLL to start hiring now. Terms and conditions apply. Native: Protect your skin this summer with Native’s mineral-based Sunscreens. Visit www.nativedeo.com/rrp or use promo code rrp at checkout, and get 20% off your first order. Ten Thousand: The world’s most durable training shorts + kits, built for your needs and designed for performance. Save 20% OFF your purchase at tenthousand.cc/richroll Whoop: The world’s most powerful fitness tracker is now waterproof. Get the WHOOP 4.O at WHOOP.com and use the code RICHROLL at checkout to get 15% off. InsideTracker: Created by leading scientists in biometrics, InsideTracker analyzes your blood, DNA, and fitness data to identify where you’re optimized and where you’re not. For a limited time, you can get 20% off the entire InsideTracker store at insidetracker.com/RichRoll. Malcolm is someone I’ve wanted on the show since day one, and I am thrilled to finally have made it happen. I hope you enjoy this exchange as much as I was thrilled to host it. Peace + Plants, Rich

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0:30.5

When it comes to evaluating the greatness of elite performers, we overemphasize peak performance and under-emphasize longevity.

0:42.5

And that is driving a lot of young people out of the sport and discouraging a lot of people and frustrating our attempt to restore the health of our society.

0:53.5

One percent of the population in middle ages practicing healthy habits.

0:58.0

Why is that?

0:59.0

Because no one bothered to teach them at the moment when those habits need to be taught.

1:03.5

The idea of having a standard of performance that spans 20 years, that matters.

1:11.0

This is a lack of imagination in promoting the sport and the people running sports are not thinking of promotion and broadening the basis of their goal.

1:19.5

They're servicing the needs of the elite athlete and we have to understand that there are times when those two things are in conflict.

1:26.0

And we have to decide, well, who are we doing this for?

1:29.0

The Rich Roll Podcast.

1:41.0

Hey, everybody. Welcome to the podcast.

1:43.5

Oh, boy, are you in for it today because my guest is none other than Malcolm Gladwell.

1:51.5

It's a good one. It's a good one that goes as you might suspect because it is Malcolm in a number of fascinating directions.

1:58.5

And it's just everything I hoped it would be.

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