Malala Yousafzai
Wild Card with Rachel Martin
NPR
4.7 • 990 Ratings
🗓️ 13 November 2025
⏱️ 42 minutes
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Summary
When Malala Yousafzai went to college, the last thing she wanted to talk about was her Nobel Prize or the Taliban attack that put her on the world stage. She just wanted to be a normal college student – taking risks, making friends and going to parties. Malala tells Rachel it’s taken a lot of work to find out who she is beyond any titles or accolades. Her new book, “Finding My Way,” is out now.
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| 0:00.0 | When do you think about your smallness in the universe? |
| 0:05.0 | All the time. |
| 0:06.5 | Yeah, I think that's, I think, you know, you feel small when you think for a second how big the universe is. |
| 0:12.8 | And we ourselves, you know, are small and we feel small. |
| 0:16.0 | But when we join hands, we are very strong and we are more impactful. |
| 0:22.4 | I'm Rachel Martin and this is Wildcard, the show where cards control the conversation. |
| 0:29.3 | Each week, my guest answers questions about their life. |
| 0:32.6 | Questions pulled from a deck of cards. |
| 0:34.8 | They're allowed to skip one question and to flip one back on me. My guest |
| 0:38.3 | this week is Malala Yusuf Sae. You know, I have had titles and these introductions that I hear |
| 0:44.2 | I'm introduced at a conference or I see my bio somewhere and I take a moment and wonder, is this |
| 0:53.2 | who I am? |
| 0:59.3 | You know how famous actors or musicians will sometimes talk about how hard it is to lose their anonymity? |
| 1:04.0 | Having every detail of their lives dissected and interpreted to fit someone else's narrative. |
| 1:06.8 | It's the trade-off, though, forgetting to do that kind of work. |
| 1:08.9 | And they understand that devil's bargain. |
| 1:11.6 | But Malala Yusuf Zai never agreed to this deal. It was forced on her after the Taliban shot her for talking publicly about why girls should get to go to school. |
| 1:18.6 | After the attack, she was put on this pedestal by the entire world. |
| 1:22.6 | She was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize when she was just 17. |
| 1:25.6 | She wasn't just a survivor. She was a hero on the |
| 1:29.3 | global stage. But when does a hero just get to be a human trying to figure herself out like the |
| 1:35.1 | rest of us? Malala Yusuf Saa's new memoir tackles that question. It is called Finding My Way, |
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