Hello there again it's Bruce Ashley, it's Eat Sleep Work compete, hope you're

well. All of the previous episodes are available at the website, which

is eat sleepwork repeat.fm and you can subscribe on all the places you get your podcast, you know

that already. Now one of the things I've been

asked most regularly over the course of the last year and a half is these episodes are

interesting for people who've got full-time jobs but what about people who do freelance work or people who maybe don't have something

that's as dependable?

Today's episode is about that.

Today's guest has understood that and probably reached as many people as anyone talking about that.

Today's guest is Emma Gannon. I've known Emma for three or four years in fact and she's got a brand new book

out called the Multifherad which is out now and it's an exploration

she doesn't really want to call it a side hustle Bible and I completely understand that but it's an

inspiration for anyone who's interested in the way to maybe develop

something that gives them some passion and interest alongside their current job and

then giving them the inspiration to turn that into

something that's making them money. So like I said it's not a side-hassal Bible

but it certainly gives lots of practical advice of how to do that and I guess the

best exemplar of that is the fact that she's done it herself so myself and Emma

talk through what she's worked on, who Emma thinks could benefit from living

a multi-hyphon method of life, and we just have a fascinating discussion on those things.

I should introduce Emma properly.

Emma is a best-selling author but she also I think

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