So many Christians, for example, when confronted with the LGBTQ issue, tend to think that we're debating behavior, what sexual behavior is appropriate or isn't appropriate.

In actual facts, as far as the LGBTQ movement is concerned, we're debating identity.

And knowing how these movements have emerged, knowing the kind of what I call cultural

pathologies that lie behind them, enable us not to be surprised, we should be horrified, but

not surprised by these things, and enable us to understand how to train our own people to think about these things and how to respond to those individuals we meet.

Welcome to the Crossway podcast, a show where we sit down with authors each week for thoughtful interviews about the Bible, theology, church history, and the Christian life.

I'm Matt Tully, and today I'm talking with Carl Truman.

Carl currently serves as professor of biblical and religious studies at Grove City College,

and previously served as the William E. Simon Fellow in Religion and Public Life at Princeton

University. He's also the author of numerous books, including The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self,

Cultural Amnesia, Expressive Individualism, and the Road to Sexual Revolution, from Crossway.

Today, Carl and I discuss our culture's current obsession with identity and changing attitudes

about gender and sexuality.

He offers a crash course on key historical figures and ideas that have shaped us in profound

yet often unnoticed ways.

He offers advice when it comes to navigating an increasingly hostile culture in the coming years.

And he highlights what conservative Christians often misunderstand about the LGBTQ cause.

Before we get started, we also want to encourage you to tune in tomorrow, November 18th,

for a special two-hour audio preview of Carl's new book, available exclusively on the Crossway

podcast. Let's get started.

Well, Carl, thank you so much for joining me on the Crossway podcast today.

Matt's a real pleasure to be here.

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