I will come back to the Personality Hacker podcast. My name is Joel Mark Witt and I'm

Antonia Dodge. If you heard our podcast from last week, you will know that we didn't

really end on a cliffhanger, but we did end it with us in an open loop. We were getting

ready to fly to see Antonia's parents, particularly her father who's not feeling very well.

He's 81. He's been having many strokes. We talked a little bit about Antonia's relationship

with her family and some of the ways that relates to all of us and how we show up to the people

in our lives, our friends and family and loved ones. We gave some ideas on how to relate

to people maybe that you don't see eye to eye with in life. It's a challenge when they're

strangers and just casual people, but what if they're family and friends? People you truly

love and care about, but you have gone different directions in your worldview and the decisions

of your life. We came back from a trip out to Oregon or Portland area. We're in Washington

state and Oregon because it's near the border of both of those states here in the United

States. Basically, Antonia, I was asked you, what was the experience like for you? I'll

just open up with that question. I think everybody was shocked at how well he was doing

after he got out of what was effectively hospice. He was in a place where he'd been given

six months to live, possibly one or two months. Everybody in my family was like, well, if

you're going to see him come out now, whatever paradigmic differences we had were by sort

of unanimously put on hold to be able to visit him and what could be maybe one of the

last visits I would ever have with him. Then we got out there and in typical, I just

have to say in typical dad fashion, he was doing way better afterwards than anybody expected

or anticipated after the ordeal. He was talking about, my dad's an 81 year old ESTP. He's lost

the use of his legs basically at this point. Apparently, he was wheeling up and down the

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